NAME | READING (pages) |
AGENDA ITEM (questions, comments, ideas, screeds, manifestos, etc.) | |
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Ross B. Mitchell |
4 |
Relativism can only be defined contra
truth (i.e. as either a lack of truth or as many truths)...however,
this book, like just about any other, lacks a definition of truth...therefore
the word relativism means absolutely nothing because its definition
is hollow. |
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Ross B. Mitchell |
28 |
Can one ever separate an idea from
an object?...My only experience of a thing is as an idea (in my head)...hence
it is always already awash in discourse (or whatever else you want to
call it). |
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Ross B. Mitchell |
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Who else thinks that the entire idea
of a "law" (that is, natural law) is silly? The idea of a "law" is nothing
more than a left over remnant from the deists that gives the FALSE impression
that there is some divine order to things...Wrong!...there are merely
necessities. Down with laws! |
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Ross B. Mitchell |
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A thought: We killed God who was
seemingly replaced by science...now we've killed science which is seemingly
being replaced by God (damn dialectics). |
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Ross B. Mitchell |
79 |
Disbelief in contingency is also
a deist artifact...it is to believe in revealing an always there "lawful"
god... |
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Denver |
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What else can be said to be "socially
constructed" (e.g. F=ma?)? What are the steps of announcing/demonstrating
that X is a social construction? |
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Denver |
32 |
If a successful science does not
have to develop in the way it did, what are common among those alternative
successful ways? |
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Denver |
39 |
What is the opposite of "social"?
Is it "natural", "individual", or "psychological"? What is the opposite of "construction"? Is it "resistance", "facilitate", or "dispensability"? |
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Denver |
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How does Constructionism have to
do with the evaluation of scientific work? |
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Denver |
53 |
Is "unmask" "deconstruction"? |
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Denver |
96 |
Is Hacking's score of Kuhn a reinterpretation
of Kuhn? |
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Denver |
125 |
Certain classification enables and
disables certain discussions. |
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Sonya |
22-23 -80 |
What do we call " Kindnes" ?
fact? truth or reality? why Ian uses "elevator words"? |
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Sonya | 15-16 |
what is atomistic self? is it socially constructed or not? it is just a product of society not interplays of history, social conditioning and the chosen behavior of individual persons? is it correct that because self is inevitable it can not be socially constructed? |
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Sonya |
6,12 and 20 |
we can generalize the Reformist constructionism claims that if in some religious countries this is an idea -not fact or truth - that "internet" is quite bad as it would be harmful for religious identities (2) , but in some of the present state of affairs in post modern world , internet is an inevitable (0) so religious authorities have modified some aspects of it.This reformist constructionism is a reality. |
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Sonya |
Response to Ross Question 28 |
we can seperate ideas of objects, for example , Atom is an objective fact ,maybe you, Ross, never had thought about Atom when you were a 3 year old kid, but atom was exist even u had not thought about that object in " your mind ". so this is the belifes of objects such as Atom that are socialy constructed not those objects themselves as they were existed before any socities were made as Iran's exaplme on quarks proves this. |
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Sonya |
Response to Denver
53 |
I think unmasking is just " questioning functions " not refuting the constructionism . as Ian has discussed it is a grade of commitment to constructionism which s aiming at undermining a thesis (56). Unmasking wants to uncover certain aspect of our thinkings and maybe results to revisionary or reformist ideas on a certain theses as it can give for example more power to refugee women (58). |
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Sonya |
32 |
Ian claims that in contrary to natural sciences , there are conscious interactions between KInd and Person in the social sciences, my question is that whether virtual interactions in internet spheres are conscious?! if not , does it mean that we can not classify STS in social science field? as it can not be sorted in the natural science as well?! just a question came to my mind | |
Nicole |
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nominalism | |
Sonya |
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I did not get the relationship of essentialism and social constructionism :( |
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Sonya |
Chapter1 |
everything that is not determined by the nature of things and is not inevitable ,is socialy constructed therefore is contingent on social and historical processes such as refugee women |
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Jessica |
Chapter 1 |
Regarding differentiation
between rebellious and revolutionary - according to Hacking it seems
that someone who does not propose an alternative would be regulated
to the rebellious category, but I wonder how many individuals offer
a critique without any alternative? Furthermore, what about those that
offer an alternative but no methodology for achieving such an alternative?
This has always been my beef with Marx - he offers a critique
but I have never really seen him outline a way to achieve a new system.
Maybe that makes him rebellious and individuals like Bakunin and Kropotkin
revolutionaries. |
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Jessica |
General |
So why is it that Sal wouldn't allow us to read this book? It seemed like it was supportive of Hacking, but I am not sure if I can see him supporting Hacking's analysis of social construction? | |
Jessica |
Chapter 1 |
If statement 0 is deliberately weak
and vague, is it serving as a straw man argument? |
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Jessica |
Response to Sonya Re: Essentialism |
I think what he is saying is that
1. To be called an essentialist is an insult, 2. Part of the reason
that it is an insult is because essentialism is used to promote many
controversial (and politically incorrrect) stances - the example he
used is racism. Social construction can talk about racism without making
race itself inherent to the argument (I think?), but essentialism makes
thigs like race and gender "essential" properties. Maybe it calls them
interent facts in a way? |
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Jessica |
General |
I'm not really sure if I know what
semiotics is, but it seems like this book might relate to that field? |
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Jon |
Chapters 1 and 4 |
Early in the first chapter Hacking
acknowledges the political nature of the struggle over constructionism.
Soon after, however, this crucial element falls out of the analysis
and we are left with nothing but the normal and infuriating analytic
philosophical practices of boiling everything down to statements which
are to be analyzed rationally and build up systematically. Using his statements 0,1,2, and 3 from chapter one, and his three sticking points introduced there and elaborated upon in chapter four, I can see that the 14th century Franscican William of Ockham was a least an unmasking, and possibly even a revolutionary constructionist and that his sticking point scores are something like Contingency: 4, Nominalism: 5, and External . . . :4. But that's obviously pretty absurd, Ockham was a nominalist and conciliarist, but given his historical-intellectual context, it makes little sense to call him a constructionist. Is it true then that constructionism is too historically, socially, and politically loaded to be completely and meaningfully (maybe I should follow Hacking and say nontrivially) encapsulated by such a hidebound philosophical analysis? Can we even analyse social constructionism without first devlving into what might be called the social construction of social constructivism. |
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Kelly | General |
It is quite apparent that social constructionism from historical to revolutionary is inherently a forms of social activism, in that it is more often applied as a tool for the uncovering, undermining, and inevitable disintegration of a given ‘social construct.’ It could be argued that through labeling something a ‘social construct’ the inherent way in which it is dealt with in society is effectively altered or minimalized. In terms of society or politics this would make ‘social constructionists’ the de-constructors and it is not surprising that many social constructionists have a political agenda and are seeking to undermine certain social constructs in that regard. However, I would question if there is not something inherently wrong in the attempt to undermine social constructs by searching for ways of portraying them as constructions of society, politics, religion, etc. in order to specifically undermine those institutions rather than first determining if the construct is in fact flawed. |
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32 58 |
"interactive kinds" "human kinds""
I am interested in Hacking's discussion of kinds, and how they are
different from categories of ideas (I cannot tell based on my
reading thus far).
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Logan |
38 |
process and product as intrinsic
to arguments about construction. I was trying to think of a case
where this is not true? |
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Logan |
40 |
does everyone agree with Hacking
that the use of the term "social" before the term "constructionism"
is obvious and unnecessary? I do not find it so. But I am
not (yet) steeped in the literature -- I am new, and to me the first
time I heard the words "socially constructed" it was like a bell ringing
in my head. |
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Logan |
55 |
Hacking may be disheartened by my
research trajectory then -- Doctors Without Borders is MSF! |
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Logan |
58 |
"looping effect" how has study of
this effect enriched the field/philosophy of social construction? |
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Kevin |
N/A |
Why does Hacking spend the first
three chapters trashing social construction and then present example
after example in the last five chapters reenforcing the concept? |
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Kevin |
13 (and others) |
When Hacking says that "everyone says that"
or "everyone knows" or "no one will dispute" does he actually believe
that every single human being will agree with those claims? I
think that Hacking's "everyone" is probably a pretty limited group,
and probably consists of those that agree with him. |
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Kevin |
18 |
The social construction of social construction:
Publisher forced Ron Harre to change the title of his book from "Social
Production" to "Social Construction" - doesn't this disprove Hacking's
thesis that social construction isn't legit? |
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Kevin |
43 |
Importance of T.S. Kuhn: Hacking says that
Kuhn is the "pre-eminent predecessor of the social studies of the sciences"
but many people who study the social studies of the sciences don't consider
him to be part of that school of thought - rather, he is a historian.
In this and other circumstances, Hacking is straw-manning the competition.
Is this because Hacking doesn't get the arguments of the competition,
or is he purposely ignoring them to make a point? If so, why? |
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Kevin |
N/A |
How do the last five chapters fit into the
book? It seems as though they don't relate to his core thesis,
and they were just bolted on to fill up pages. Am I missing something
here, or is Hacking trying to pull a fast one? |
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Mark |
75 |
Weinberg states: ‘‘If we ever discover intelligent
creatures on some distant planet and translate their scientific works,
we will find that we and they have discovered the same laws.’’
So many problems with this... the assumption that the alien intelligence
will resemble our own insofar as it will be "translatable" - that intelligence
will result in the discovery of scientific laws - that laws exist universally
independent of context (ie where do the aliens live? What are the circumstances
of their existence ie, size relative to physical environment, gravity,
propensity for scientific exploration, etc. |
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Mark |
84 |
the idea of inherent structure. Didn't Pythagoras believe
that mathematics existed in nature and that he identified it...something
along those lines... |
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Mark |
93 |
"Great poets mired in poverty may have cultural authority
without patrons." Such as? |
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